tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3544799987499995638.post2644880492126376918..comments2023-05-12T03:00:57.208-07:00Comments on Singing to the Plants: Hallucinogens in SiberiaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3544799987499995638.post-31474028944876435272008-08-14T14:22:00.000-07:002008-08-14T14:22:00.000-07:00Greetings,I found your post while doing some rease...Greetings,<BR/><BR/>I found your post while doing some reasearch on 'soma' the holy plant of the Hindus. I just read an interesting article that identifies the plant with the fly agaric mushroom. Perhaps the tradition of using this plant is very old, and was shared through the drinking of urine. The thought was that the body filtered out some of the harmful chemicals and made it safer and perhaps more potent. I'll admit that it sounds kind of yucky to a Westerner like me, but apparently it isn't culturally unknown in the East. It's also interesting that this red/white mushroom is a frequent Germanic child's illustration accompanying elves and other worldly beings.<BR/><BR/>The article:<BR/><BR/>"The Soma of the Rig Veda: What Was It?" by R. Gordon Wasson<BR/>Journal of the American Oriental Society, Vol. 91, No. 2 (Apr. - Jun., 1971), pp. 169-187 <BR/><BR/>Katherine in OregonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3544799987499995638.post-64503748244706249202008-06-30T15:26:00.000-07:002008-06-30T15:26:00.000-07:00Marilyn --It is great to hear from you! I am delig...Marilyn --<BR/><BR/>It is great to hear from you! I am delighted to get some confirmation fom someone who is -- unlike me -- genuinely knowledgeable in this area. I hope you are having a wonderful summer.<BR/><BR/>-- SteveSteve Beyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06176285779096780805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3544799987499995638.post-71569669573731421082008-06-30T15:16:00.000-07:002008-06-30T15:16:00.000-07:00Hi Steve,Liked your article and have to say that t...Hi Steve,<BR/>Liked your article and have to say that there's only one group I'm aware of that uses mushrooms in Siberia - and the whole community uses them - today. One group, the Udegei, say they learned to eat mushrooms from the Russians and don't seem to remember using them long ago. Every other group I met made no reference to shamans using mushrooms.<BR/>In spirit,<BR/>Marilyn Walker, PhDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3544799987499995638.post-85367683513543736782008-02-16T19:18:00.000-08:002008-02-16T19:18:00.000-08:00Hey LLB!I wish I knew those cultures better. But t...Hey LLB!<BR/><BR/>I wish I knew those cultures better. But the question, for me, is not whether hallucinogens are used all over -- I have no doubt they are -- but whether they are used for *shamanizing*. All I can say is that I have looked at the major examples that have been brought forward of shamanic use outside what I have called the extended Upper Amazon hallucinogen culture area, and I have not been convinced. And I find that a lot more interesting than if things were the same everywhere. :-)Steve Beyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06176285779096780805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3544799987499995638.post-53523886600963482042008-02-16T17:37:00.000-08:002008-02-16T17:37:00.000-08:00dont forget papau new guinea...africaall over asia...dont forget papau new guinea...<BR/>africa<BR/>all over asia<BR/>nepal<BR/>india<BR/>autrialia<BR/>europe<BR/>all over the world honestly they have been worked with.little lightening bolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777813298081487224noreply@blogger.com